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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2003 9:06 am    Post subject: Multiple challenges responding to a group of VQ users Reply with quote

As some users are aware, Vanquish will aggregate challenges from the same user. So if you send a VQ user 5 messages before receiving a challenge, you will receive only one email requesting you to click on a link. Whenever you pick up your web challenge, a table will list all of the messages awaiting your verification -- and you need to solve only one challenge.

O.K. But what about situations where you send a message to 5 different VQ users with whom you have had no prior contact... Are you allowed to solve just one challenge? Of course not! If this were allowed, then you could purchase a mailing list with 1 million addresses and wait for the first challenge, thereby pushing out your message to thousands of other VQ users.

But several individuals affiliated with our company noted the receipt of multiple challenges from individuals that they do not know. What's going on?? Here is the answer and here is what we are doing about it!
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12-Mar-2003, From Peter Sxxxx

I just got this email below. This is very strange. I have not used email for about 5 days, and I don't know who steve is, but at best I unintentionally Ccd him 5 days ago. But this arrived last night.

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From: challenge@protected.vanquish.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 11, 2003 10:58 PM
To: Peter Sxxxx
Subj: RE: Proxy Update, Domain Match, Forum URL

Dear Peter@xxxxxx.xxx,

Your email to steve@xxxxxx.xxx regarding "RE: Manual Proxy Update Domain Match tips Direct BBS URL" needs your confirmation.


The challenge you received was proper, but we have decided to address the PERCEPTION, anyway...

On Feb 27, you replied to group with an email that began: "Of course the last sentence was a total joke!"... One of the recipients, Steve Rosenbaum, has been in the South America outback until yesterday. Like you, he has not used email for a week. And so his challenge was generated when he fired up his PC.

You may be interested in knowing two things about these types of situations:

(1) Steve is one of our directors and also one of four "ADEPT" users. He already had you on his allowed list. But upon return, he installed a totally new version of Vanquish (the version we are releasing later today. At our request, he cleaned out his entire list of allowed senders.

(2) The effect of replying to group is exaggerated, because everyone at Vanquish is protected by Vanquish and no one else in the world is bonded!! Therefore, when we send messages to a group that includes our own staff, we have seen this unfortunate effect before (i.e. when the outsider replies to the group of Vanquish employees, they get multiple challenges).

But we recognize that perception is 9/10 of reality. The phenomenon appears to be a bug or, at best, a poorly planned implementation. Therefore, we have spec'd a feature to prevent the situation altogether. I call this a "new feature" rather than a bug fix...

The feature allows a Vanquish user to check off any Allowed senders who are also trusted as referring agents. I.e. the user places a check next to individuals within his "regular Cc circles". Now Cc addresses received from these trusted individuals will be added to the user's own list of allowed senders. Viola! If any strange recipient replies to the entire group, his email is accepted by all members in that group.

This is better than SHARING a members allowed list on a server, because the list would rapidly grow enormous. It would also lead to issues of "HOW MANY degrees of separation are allowed?" But in our proposed implementation, each user decides who is in his group, based on who he/she is likely to copy.
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